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Evolution...

Really guys, the bible is a religious book, not a scientific one. It's supposed to make us think about stuff, not tell us factual stories. I'm not saying That there is no God or something (don't get me started on that), and I respect the human right for everyone to have his own fate, but like I said, don't see the bible as a historically accurate book.

Edit: btw sldfkd, nice poll... I feel a good debate is coming ^^

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considering there is evidence to back up a lot of events in the bible its not accurate right?

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sure, there are things in the bible which are correct. There is proof that Jesus Christ did exist, and was crusified.
But a lot more things are just stories. Stories which are supposed to give you some sense of ethics and such... There is no proof that Jesus walked on water, and made a blind man see, just by touching him. And I highly doubt these things really happened.
Like 'Snow White' teaches kids not to take candy from strangers. Only the stories in the bible are told in more of a mature way.

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how does jesus walking on water and making a blind man see suppose to give you some sense of ethics? the only reason jesus performed miracles was to prove that he was god and you're citing miracles as examples of stories intended to teach ethics lol

and of course there is no concrete 100% proof that those "stories" happened, but theres also no concrete 100% proof that they didn't or couldn't have happened.

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Both.

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how does jesus walking on water and making a blind man see suppose to give you some sense of ethics? the only reason jesus performed miracles was to prove that he was god and you're citing miracles as examples of stories intended to teach ethics lol

and of course there is no concrete 100% proof that those "stories" happened, but theres also no concrete 100% proof that they didn't or couldn't have happened. [/b][/quote]
Therefore they would not be accurate right.

I believe that something started us on earth, and evolution took over. I believe theres a higher power then god, and god was created byt his higher power. God then created basic life, and we evolved and adapted from there.

nope, that would mean its impossible to prove that they did or did not happen.

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ac‧cu‧rate  /ˈækyərɪt/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[ak-yer-it] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation

–adjective 1. free from error or defect; consistent with a standard, rule, or model; precise; exact.

It is neither precise, nor disproven. Therefore inaccuracy is the correct word.

nope, that would mean its impossible to prove that they did or did not happen. [/b][/quote]
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I particuraly think life came from another planet or astroid which hit Earth and then the microscopic Bacteria began Evolving over millions of years so in reality I believe in both.

I believe life was created, but it was not created first on Earth since there are far older things in the Universe.

In reality I have many theorys none of which can be proven at this day and age which is why they are still called theorys.

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n‧ac‧cu‧ra‧cy  /ɪnˈækyərəsi/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[in-ak-yer-uh-see] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation

–noun, plural -cies for 1. 1. something inaccurate; error.
2. the quality or state of being inaccurate.


the stories can't be proven to be inaccurate or have the quality or state of being inaccurate. therefore inaccuracy is the incorrect word.

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They cannot be proven or disproven. Then what would you call them? If they were accurate, theyd be correct.

"and of course there is no concrete 100% proof that those "stories" happened, but theres also no concrete 100% proof that they didn't or couldn't have happened. "

So they are Inaccurate. Its not saying they're wrong, but its not saying theyre right. It's just saying they are suggested, proposed, that these events took place.

One aspect of religion is (and has always been) a means to explain things which science can not explain. 2.000 years ago they did not have the technology to research how the earth came to be, and how (human) life came to be. So they accredited those things to God. Now, we DO have those technologies. There are solid theories on how the world and life came to be. And of course, they can not be proven. After all, how do you prove something that happened many millions of years ago...
In Europe, these theories are commonly accepted. Only a very small minority of people believe the earth and life have been created by God, or some other deity.

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the word inaccurate means that they are incorrect. by saying they are inaccurate you ARE saying they did not happen. its possible that they are accurate and its also possible that they are inaccurate.


most of the world believes in some sort of god and there is no technology to research how the earth came to be lol

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some religions can be disproven i.e. some say the world is only 5000 years old, however, there is scientific prove that its millions of years old.

not sayin all religions can be disproven but that one can be...yet people still believe it...why?

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scientific "proof" is based on what the scientist himself believes. each scientist chooses to use a machine that gives them the answer they are looking for when dating things like rocks or bones.

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you can date things like bones and rocks accurately with machines that the top scientists all agree on, thats gd enough for me. this may not be gd enough for some ppl. but this machines can date recent things that can be proven so they are accurate dating history

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not really how the earth came to be, but there is scientific proof that the universe is expanding. And if you would track where all matters in the universe came from originally, they all come from the same location. This, among other findings, lead to the big-bang theory. And these are things which people could not research 2.000 years ago.

so in response to your post, indeed there is no one universal technology to research how the earth came to be. But technology and science give us a rational explanation, it tells us a story how the earth (and other planets, and stars and such) were most likely made. At least I find it a far more credible theory than some higher power creating the world and life and so in seven days. or was it six days, and the seventh for resting... whatever, you know what i mean...

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the big bang theory has no sence :S

lol. science and technology make us have good theories but they still contradict themselves :S.. 1 good theory says something.. then another good theory says another thing but its still good :S Science just contradicts itself.

Science just wants us to believe God didn't create anything and he doesnt exist. Science thinks they got good theories but they just contradict themselves. You may find it more accurate cause its a "fact" :S well u consider it a fact but its not a fact.

I believe God created us and we entered in a process of Evolution

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Now, the seven- six days thing, could've acctualy taken... I dunno 6,000,000- 7,000,000 years? maybe to "God" 6-7 days could be that long.
Just I thing I heard in Ecumenical (Religion) Class

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how do we know these machines are accurate?

because scientists say that this is when it should have been so its right?
and if you actually researched you would see many of the carbon "datings" have been wrong

you cant base time on the decay of carbon because there are to many variables that could effect the rate of decay not to mention there is no basis for this method and is basically scientists just guessing
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Hmm, interesting thought...
Even so, if He made the earth, he must have made the other planets too, right? so that would take Him billions of years considering there are loads of planets in the universe. Maybe once he gets the hang of it, he might be able to do it faster, but still...

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Humans created science. not the bacterias and stuff but we organize the facts.. Humans are not perfect. Humans think they got the answer but they don't. Well humans include us too :P

Peter dont talk about God like if he was a machine :S lol the best human machine would take forever (if we get it in the future idk lol maybe in 200000 years =/) to make planets.. why should God take years too? :S he got powers son.

Who gave everything its value and its properties (including science)? God did.. he created EVERYTHING

and even if u practice another religion, u should know this. Now if u use ur common sence u would say u cant see God so he doesnt exist.. :S but thats not true.

God gave us a mind to choose the way we want to choose.. the good one or the bad one.. he gave us the liberty to choose. That's why there are so many questions about the world and religions. But if your smart enough, ALMOST ALL religions say believe in God.. which is the important thing.

Now, i dont believe everything the bible (i believe almost everything) says :S but i know God exists, hes my creator and i must respect and love him.

well thats my opinion.

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Basically only when they use tainted samples of carbon. Carbon dating almost always returns an accurate result, and they can easily test it on things they do know the age of. It wouldnt be so widely accepted if it didn't tell the correct age for something already known.

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If you want to know, emerson, I don't pracitce any religion. I was raised in a moderately Catholic Christian household, but I do not believe in God myself, because my way of thinking prevents it. It's hard to explain why one doesn't believe in something.
Now I do respect every person's own conviction and opinion. But I found that most pracitcing Christians I personally know, don't see God as some entity, as a superiour being, but rather see Him as 'the good' which is in the hearts and minds of people. So they don't see God as the creator of everything, most people I know believe the scientific theories. To be honest, I personally don't know a single person who believes the creation-theory.
What I mean to say is that it is perfectly possible to be a practicing Christian, and believe in God, but to also believe in science. There are even bishops in Europe who say that the theory of evolution 'might be what really happened'. But that probably the difference between the European way of practicing religion, and the American way (from the American continent, not only the USA).

To me personally, religion is folklore and tradition. If I ever get married, I will get married in the church, even though I don't believe in God. but thats just the way ist supposed to be, imho... Same goes for Christmas. I celebrate it, but only as a tradition.

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in other words ur just saying u live the life the way it is.. u dont care who made it, the origins, etc.. u just do it cause everybody does <_<

lol lot of people believe scientific theories but if u analyze all of them u will see they contradict themselves.

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