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Nit3 · #1 06-26-2007, 12:43 AM

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The chief architect of Sony's PlayStation game console stepped down Tuesday as the Japanese company struggles to defend its dominance in the video game industry and revive its reputation as an electronics pioneer.

Ken Kutaragi, 56, retired as Sony Computer Entertainment Inc.'s chairman and group chief executive, the gaming unit said Tuesday. The unit is now headed by Kazuo Hirai, SCE's former president and chief operating officer.

Kutaragi had already been relieved of day-to-day responsibilities as president last year but stayed on as chief executive and chairman. In April, he announced his intention to retire from those positions this month.

Though no longer a board member, Kutaragi will hold an advisory post at the gaming unit, according to SCE official Sayoka Henmi.

Source: http://fe2.news.re3.yahoo.com/s/ap/2..._te/japan_sony

Unseen · #2 07-05-2007, 08:39 PM

This is perhaps because Wii is so popular over there?
Also, this shouldn't affect US or UK, or elsewhere for that matter.. I hope. :P

Nit3 · #3 07-06-2007, 01:47 PM

More like they admitted failure? This affects everywhere, Ken is the one who created the original Playstation, everything! So what you read means that they know PS3 is doing bad as of the moment, so they got a new person to do some major jobs.

Unseen · #4 07-08-2007, 08:07 AM

Lol, PS3 is doing just fine.

Nit3 · #5 07-08-2007, 07:56 PM

Sony is simply retarded.

They have the hardware, the specs, everything, but they aren't doing anything with it. This story is very similar to the PSP as well, failing. There were so much high expectations for both the PSP and the PS3, now that is turning into dissapoinments.

P.S. PS3 is NOT DOING FINE. THEY ARE DOING HOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRIBLE!

Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum · #6 07-08-2007, 08:51 PM

do you have stats of the ps3 and psp doing bad?... if so are they current and not from the 1st month of ps3 and psp's release i know many buddies of mine who are die hard xbox fans are saving money to buy ps3's... why? cause even they have said the xbox only has so much you can do.. while sony's ps3 you can have wireless internet connection anytime, once ps3 builds its library of games it most likely will out do any xbox sales... you also have to remember ps3 alrdy currently has a good library of games its called ps1 and ps2 games and so far all of my old games work 100% fine on ps3 so ^_^ also ps3s online so far is x50 better then xbox live trust me ive tried them both and xbox live is just **** to be honest also ps3 is launching HOME here sometime in july its ps3 d/l only and kindve like the sims meets online play, you can have your own house/apartment i guess for your clans/guilds and they can enter it whenever they also are adding a trophy room so if you do good in an online play and get one you can show it off :s ps3's fanbase isnt high due to it being so pricey :\ that cant be controlled seeing you get a whole lot more for that money

im not trying to say ps3 is better but given the same amount of time xbox360 has had ps3 will become a whole lot better there are ups of 360.. i cant play halo series

but thats the only reason i play xbox is for halo.. which is really sad considering all the games xbox + 360 has :S now sony i have tons of fun replaying all the FF's, MGS's, and many other games which i loved on ps1/ps2 and not xbox <_< just my thoughts though

Nit3 · #7 07-08-2007, 10:03 PM

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i know many buddies of mine who are die hard xbox fans are saving money to buy ps3's... why? cause even they have said the xbox only has so much you can do..

Why the hell should I trust your friends when I have much more professional sources backing me up? Are they die-hard Xbox fans if they are buying a PS3? When the PS3 was released I read and watched countless sources describe how the PS3s launch was a failure. Not only due to the price, but the line-up and lies. So many developers have went multi-platform or exclusive to the Xbox 360 when they were exclusive to the PS3. Why? Because the PS3 is hard to work with and the number of consumers aren't high enough to back up the financial costs of making the game. This doesn't only deal with the original launch, PS3 is still doing bad. Also, what the hell do you mean when saying "the Xbox 360 has so much you can do"? The PS3, as well, has so much as you can do. Can you drive a PS3 to work?

while sony's ps3 you can have wireless internet connection anytime,

Xbox 360 too.

once ps3 builds its library of games it most likely will out do any xbox sales...

What exclusive games, the games that sell a system, are you awaiting for on the PS3? Count 5 that are coming out this year.

you also have to remember ps3 alrdy currently has a good library of games its called ps1 and ps2 games and so far all of my old games work 100% fine on ps3 so ^_^

Why would I buy a PS3 ($600) when I can just get a PS2 ($100)?

also ps3s online so far is x50 better then xbox live trust me ive tried them both and xbox live is just **** to be honest

Again, why should I listen to you? hey trust me xbox live is x100 bettr than ps3s onlne netwrk. As of now, PS3s online network sucks completely in comparison to the Xbox 360. What the hell is so good about PS3 Live? Every smart person can admit that Xbox Live is far superior to some cheap online service that PS3 has.

also ps3 is launching HOME here sometime in july its ps3 d/l only and kindve like the sims meets online play, you can have your own house/apartment i guess for your clans/guilds and they can enter it whenever they also are adding a trophy room so if you do good in an online play and get one you can show it off :s

OMG 1 GAME IS GOING TO MAKE PS3 BETTER? Why the hell does Xbox 360 need a game like that? To walk around and look at trophies, play with other people? Xbox 360 makes it simpler, instead of walking to play pool with someone, you click a button.

ps3's fanbase isnt high due to it being so pricey :\ that cant be controlled seeing you get a whole lot more for that money

I can't find the article, but somewhere on 1UP they summed it all down and found out that the 360 was like a $50 better value. Also, we're talking about a gaming console. Still, the 360 has a lot of features, but there is no point of adding Blu-Ray or some other non-sense when it is already doing fine.

im not trying to say ps3 is better but given the same amount of time xbox360 has had ps3 will become a whole lot better there are ups of 360..

You just did.

i cant play halo series

but thats the only reason i play xbox is for halo.. which is really sad considering all the games xbox + 360 has :S
now sony i have tons of fun replaying all the FF's, MGS's, and many other games which i loved on ps1/ps2 and not xbox <_< just my thoughts though

B/C you're a deep Sony fan-boy. Hey I can admit it, PS2 was better than Xbox. I always have. Yet, Xbox 360 currently owns PS3, hands down. Also, there are no games I would like to play on the PS3 besides maybe Resistance and Ninja Gaiden, but since you were totally neglectful to all the other good games the 360 has, I would say there are no good games for the PS3.[/b]

And...

http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/biztech/06/19...y.ap/index.html

Here's the new link from CNN.

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Kutaragi's most recent brainchild, the PlayStation 3, has been marred by embarrassing production shortages and a $600 price tag that some fans said was too steep, forcing Sony to give away free games and other marketing gimmicks to spur sales.[/b]

Wait, that resembles something. Kinda like... HOME!

And finally...

If you already have a PS3 all I can say is that you are either rich, or a dumbass. Why pay 600$ when, as of now, there is nothing good for it?

Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum · #8 07-09-2007, 02:22 AM

too bad i got my ps3 100% free.. i know the right people in the usa also i got it 1wk yes just 1wk before xmas

so the only money ive spent so far on my ps3 has been for resistance fall of man, gundam crossfire *i always loved the cartoons and the games can be entertaining from time to time* and transformers the game :S all these games i play on a regular basis now for other games that i play to find out if theyll flop or not i rent from blockbuster >.< also out of all the games offered on xbox/360 ive played 90% of them :S most remind me of n64 games :\ but then again n64 *which i still own* was the best gaming system you could buy for a long time

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B/C you're a deep Sony fan-boy. Hey I can admit it, PS2 was better than Xbox. I always have. Yet, Xbox 360 currently owns PS3, hands down. Also, there are no games I would like to play on the PS3 besides maybe Resistance and Ninja Gaiden, but since you were totally neglectful to all the other good games the 360 has, I would say there are no good games for the PS3.[/b]

yes im a deep fan-boy

to bad if i was wouldnt my OS be something more like linux?... and not windows xp you know cause if i was a fan-boy i wouldnt touch a microsoft product would i? <_< also i have an xbox/ps/ps2/ps3/psp/and countless nintendo products use to own sega genesis and a dreamcast zomg :S i dont have a 360 but ive played many the only + i see for me spending money on a 360 is halo 3 + gears of wars :\

also have you even really played a ps3? by the sounds of it you havent me on the other hand i have played all system but the retarded lil WII but ill be playing that soon seeing my g/f has one and is trying to convince me to play it

i know each gaming system has its ups and downs its something you deal with when picking a gaming system and a game to play you may not like ps3 so good for you :S go play your xbox or 360

but these are just my thoughts which everyone is entitled to.. i play sony gaming systems cause i know a truly am getting my moneys worth every time

Nit3 · #9 07-09-2007, 05:32 AM

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i know many buddies of mine who are die hard xbox fans are saving money to buy ps3's... why? cause even they have said the xbox only has so much you can do..

Why the hell should I trust your friends when I have much more professional sources backing me up? Are they die-hard Xbox fans if they are buying a PS3? When the PS3 was released I read and watched countless sources describe how the PS3s launch was a failure. Not only due to the price, but the line-up and lies. So many developers have went multi-platform or exclusive to the Xbox 360 when they were exclusive to the PS3. Why? Because the PS3 is hard to work with and the number of consumers aren't high enough to back up the financial costs of making the game. This doesn't only deal with the original launch, PS3 is still doing bad. Also, what the hell do you mean when saying "the Xbox 360 has so much you can do"? The PS3, as well, has so much as you can do. Can you drive a PS3 to work?

while sony's ps3 you can have wireless internet connection anytime,

Xbox 360 too.

once ps3 builds its library of games it most likely will out do any xbox sales...

What exclusive games, the games that sell a system, are you awaiting for on the PS3? Count 5 that are coming out this year.

you also have to remember ps3 alrdy currently has a good library of games its called ps1 and ps2 games and so far all of my old games work 100% fine on ps3 so ^_^

Why would I buy a PS3 ($600) when I can just get a PS2 ($100)?

also ps3s online so far is x50 better then xbox live trust me ive tried them both and xbox live is just **** to be honest

Again, why should I listen to you? hey trust me xbox live is x100 bettr than ps3s onlne netwrk. As of now, PS3s online network sucks completely in comparison to the Xbox 360. What the hell is so good about PS3 Live? Every smart person can admit that Xbox Live is far superior to some cheap online service that PS3 has.

also ps3 is launching HOME here sometime in july its ps3 d/l only and kindve like the sims meets online play, you can have your own house/apartment i guess for your clans/guilds and they can enter it whenever they also are adding a trophy room so if you do good in an online play and get one you can show it off :s

OMG 1 GAME IS GOING TO MAKE PS3 BETTER? Why the hell does Xbox 360 need a game like that? To walk around and look at trophies, play with other people? Xbox 360 makes it simpler, instead of walking to play pool with someone, you click a button.

ps3's fanbase isnt high due to it being so pricey :\ that cant be controlled seeing you get a whole lot more for that money

I can't find the article, but somewhere on 1UP they summed it all down and found out that the 360 was like a $50 better value. Also, we're talking about a gaming console. Still, the 360 has a lot of features, but there is no point of adding Blu-Ray or some other non-sense when it is already doing fine.

im not trying to say ps3 is better but given the same amount of time xbox360 has had ps3 will become a whole lot better there are ups of 360..

You just did.

i cant play halo series

but thats the only reason i play xbox is for halo.. which is really sad considering all the games xbox + 360 has :S
now sony i have tons of fun replaying all the FF's, MGS's, and many other games which i loved on ps1/ps2 and not xbox <_< just my thoughts though

B/C you're a deep Sony fan-boy. Hey I can admit it, PS2 was better than Xbox. I always have. Yet, Xbox 360 currently owns PS3, hands down. Also, there are no games I would like to play on the PS3 besides maybe Resistance and Ninja Gaiden, but since you were totally neglectful to all the other good games the 360 has, I would say there are no good games for the PS3.[/b]

And...

http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/biztech/06/19...y.ap/index.html

Here's the new link from CNN.

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Kutaragi's most recent brainchild, the PlayStation 3, has been marred by embarrassing production shortages and a $600 price tag that some fans said was too steep, forcing Sony to give away free games and other marketing gimmicks to spur sales.[/b]

Wait, that resembles something. Kinda like... HOME!

And finally...

If you already have a PS3 all I can say is that you are either rich, or a dumbass. Why pay 600$ when, as of now, there is nothing good for it?
[/b]

Wait a minute!

What was professor Utonium making little girls for in the first place?

Unseen · #10 07-10-2007, 06:25 PM

Nit3. Home is only free with the basics. It's gonna be pricey. Now, Im warning you here and now. You need to stop flaming PS3. Not because I like it etc, but because your pissing everyone off with your utter crap. PS3 is a console, it sells games, we play them, we make a forum and topics about them. Get over it and shut the hell up.

Nit3 · #11 07-10-2007, 09:02 PM

Our we able to voice our own opinion? That's the point of a forum, so everyone can have fun, argue, and express themselves.

Also, I think that the PS3 could be amazing. However, like I said, the PS3 is doing horrible right now. How? They simply aren't using it to the full potential. They aren't publicizing it as much as they should be, they are taking the wrong direction.

P.S. Luckily, at E3, the PS3 has many previews of some amazing games coming out exclusively. Not only that, but they are reducing the price of the PS3.

You see? That's the direction you're supposed to take.

Unseen · #12 07-11-2007, 08:11 AM

Thats what Ive been saying. Thats why I got a PS3. I also have a lot of friends with one, and not many friends with an Xbox 360. Therefore it suits my GAMING NEEDS.

Every topic you flame PS3. I don't go on the Xbox 360 forum and flame that, so you have no right to do it here. Just stop flaming it, and post normally. And also your comment on the Hitman section was uncalled for.

Nit3 · #13 07-11-2007, 02:49 PM

Tell me. How many people are posting in the Hitman section. I was posting my opinion as of how absurd it was to do something like that. It'll turn into another Call of Duty forum and become inactive yet again! Trust me, I'll come back to this topic in a month and prove you how inactive it is.

Also, PS3s conference is in an hour at 12PM (Unless Nintendo is first). I'll post info about it and then we can determine what PS3 has been doing all this time.

Unseen · #14 07-11-2007, 03:15 PM

Nit3. Its called addins something new. Thats all. Keep your throughts to yourself. You were not included in the Admin conversations discussing the addition of that forum and also other ideas upcoming on vGaming.

Nit3 · #15 07-11-2007, 08:50 PM

So are you saying that the powers of the forum (Admins, etc.) don't care about the community? That you guys only care for yourself and take no initiative in finding out what we, the community, wants? We are obliged to our own opinions and I'm sorry if you feel that it wasn't that great. I never knew that you guys would warn me and delete the topic giving no response whatsoever besides a warn saying I was flaming/spamming. I guess you guys don't care about others opinions and when people oppose the "power" you get annoyed and consider it flaming.

Unseen · #16 07-11-2007, 09:42 PM

No, when something new comes to the forum. You are supposed to support it, add content, and help out, not post a topic that is frankly going to put people off posting there.

Nit3 · #17 07-12-2007, 04:45 PM

No, you are not always supposed to support something. People disagree, and people agree. Just because something is new doesn't mean it's good, and if it's bad why the hell would someone support it?

Unseen · #18 07-12-2007, 07:11 PM

The reason is different here. Some people feel vGaming is going through a..difficult time. All I was asking was some support into the matter, thats all. As you can imagine, that topic didnt help.

Nit3 · #19 07-12-2007, 11:02 PM

Why should you support in a fragile idea?

Unseen · #20 07-14-2007, 06:19 PM

Because it can help vGaming grow again.

Nit3 · #21 07-15-2007, 03:37 AM

Frankly, it won't help vGaming grow as much as a better, more popular, sub-forum would. Hell, why would you support a game that doesn't offer unlimited re-playability with online-play? People will just come and go once they finish the game and do everything that satisfies them. I played Hitman 2 and it was a fun game to go around stealth killing, especially on the airport level, but I got bored of it and quickly jumped to another title. I know you know, and I know this as well, Dococ doesn't stick to something. He comes and goes from ideas (remember the SA-MP server?) and you were even against him, just like I was.

Lets go a little further into this.

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I PMed Dococ about my unfair warning saying that I was not notified as to why I was warned and what I had done. I even told him that we are all entitled to our own opinions, and giving an opinion is not either flaming or spamming. I told him if I was not explained as to what I was done, I would inform Vision of his power abuse.[/b]

This was his cocky PM reply:

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Me, Xtr3me, and ViSiOn had a cheerful MSN conversation about the subject actually, and laughed our asses off at your pitiful attempts to say you were wrongly warned. I didn't abuse my power, you flamed a section that was brand new, and put people off posting there. This was uncalled for, and Xtr3me and ViSiOn agree with me. Feel free to let him know, we have already done that ourselves on MSN

[/b]

Now this pissed me off. I was especially angry with Vision because I actually liked Vision a lot. He laughed at me? I don't know why the hell I deserve to be laughed at when any person would realize that giving your own opinion and trying to help out the community by fixing problems before they happen is not flaming/spamming. He was a person I even admired, and now he did a decision like this? I wasn't even told of what I had did, and how what I did was flaming/spamming. Come on! We all know that Dococ NEVER sticks to an idea. He always runs away and tries to convince people that "this one will actually work". Now, what has he done? Made a new sub-forum that will soon be abandoned and then go into something else? I know if you think about it, you and I know that this is gonna fail, just like everything he has gave up on.

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Remember this?[/b]

Now, tell me about this. What you did was exactly what I did. Why were you, Xtreme, not warned for this? Not to mention, what ever happened about the SA-MP server? That's right, nothing, he gave up. All he did was make a new sub-forum and did absolutely nothing besides steal other peoples hard-made topics that they did to promote their own forum.

I conclude, still saying that I was wrongly warned, that the Hitman sub-forum will soon be abandoned and Dococ will get into another 'hobby' which we all have to like, or else he will get angry and warn us.

Gladiator_c3 · #22 07-15-2007, 08:26 AM

but really all in all is the ps3 worth 600 or 500 w/e it is?

Unseen · #23 07-15-2007, 08:47 AM

Nit3. I knew Dococ would give up with the SA-MP server, and so did a number of other members, thus no warn.

The Hitman section however, was a whole new sub forum. We had just been in a big Staff Lounge topic about it, and a MSN convo about it. And, about a few hours into it's creation. I see a topic. I was pleased to see another member had posted, but then, it was flame.

I didn't warn you. I did however link ViSiOn on MSN, and showed him. He replied "Lol". I then invited Dococ to the convo, we started chatting about something else. (Growing the Hitman Section infact.). ViSiOn then left the conversation, so we continued our convo on Xfire.

The End.

Maybe he just "Lol"-ed because he was busy, and didn't really care. He did however say. "He is right though". So he was agreeing with you.

The reason we warned you, which I have already said a number of times, was simply because we hadn't even added some nice news topics, and suddenly there was a topic saying that there was no point in the forum.

A PM would of been nicer, or a topic in the FEEDBACK forum. A plain forum, straight on a new area that we were, and still are working hard on to grow, is not called for.

If you cannot accept this, I'm afraid I have no choice but to take this further. I hope this has ended the situation.

David · #24 07-15-2007, 03:38 PM

Just to about sum this up for you, I AM still working on the SA:MP server. Reason I never updated the topic is it isn't for vGO it is for me and a friend. So I don't see how you got anywhere with your opinion without knowing the facts bud

Unseen · #25 07-15-2007, 03:44 PM

Ah, my bad.

David · #26 07-15-2007, 03:47 PM

No Problem

Still looks like PS3 Is doing good due to the price drop

Nit3 · #27 07-16-2007, 03:29 PM

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Nit3. I knew Dococ would give up with the SA-MP server, and so did a number of other members, thus no warn.[/b]

You know, that makes absolutely no sense in what your saying. If Dococ had his power like he does right now, I know he would have warned you because he gets angry every time someone disagrees with him. That is unfair to me, because I did nothing, I did the exact same thing as you but you get no warnings whatsoever. I know Dococ is gonna give up on the Hitman section, thus I should receive no warn.

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The Hitman section however, was a whole new sub forum. We had just been in a big Staff Lounge topic about it, and a MSN convo about it. And, about a few hours into it's creation. I see a topic. I was pleased to see another member had posted, but then, it was flame.[/b]

THAT IS NOT FLAME. I gave my opinion to the forum, just like you did to the SA-MP Server! You should ask people about what they think about it, because what I see is 2 people talking in a sub-forum in what could be a PM! I gave my opinion about what I think, I don't care what you thought when I made that post because I think differently. I still stand how it's a stupid idea!

It is pretty obvious that this section will become inactive after David only takes other peoples topics. Maybe you guys should have prepared, made your own stuff before, because all you did was take peoples work without permission. Nonetheless you didn't, and there are already people complaining about it from another forum.

P.S. David, you still gave up on the SA-MP Server for vGO boy.

David · #28 07-16-2007, 06:40 PM

People are complaining? I only see one person bud.

Secondly if you look in the topic I said I may use it for vGO, I asked the guy that is making it with me if he minded, and we decided to make it for our own website.

Thirdly how do you think a website / community gets made? By 100's of people? Maybe 1 or 2 people are posting in there alone, so I don't see how this should be much different from a section not even a week old. We beat your little "competition" on getting more active then the COD section.

Fourthly they never said it was © And I did credit them, so I don't see how I'm ripping there work, or anything. If they said in the topic "© Copyright, please ask before using", then I would of asked, but no.

Now that its over with, we can either take this up in PM or MSN, stop spamming these topics.

Closed

Unseen · #29 07-17-2007, 04:39 PM

Just like to add what was on my previous post.

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If you cannot accept this, I'm afraid I have no choice but to take this further. I hope this has ended the situation.[/b]

Now, I have tried to sort this out, with a decent conversation, but you obviously lack the ability to listen, understand, and get the hint that nobody gives a crap about what you have to say. Therefore, I will now be passing the matter onto further members of staff, and you have once again been warned.

Keep this flaming up, and you will be suspended from vGaming.

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